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Hallo,
ich verkaufe mein Tokina SL 3,5/17mm (manueller Fokus) weil ich mit dem Nikon AI-S 3,5/20mm gut klar komme und etwas Platz im Fotoschrank brauche.
Das Objektiv ist in einem sehr guten Zustand. Keine Kratzer, kein Pilz. Einzig die Fokussierung hat leichtes Spiel, was bei diesem Objektiv wohl öfter vorgekommen ist.
Dabei sind beide Deckel, die Sonnenblende und die OVP
Preis: 120 Euro + 5 Euro für den versicherten Versand.
Analog ist es leicht abgeblendet ein wirklich gutes Objektiv
Laut Ken Rockwell ist es auch an der D3 sehr gut.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/17tokina.htm
Privatverkauf. Keine Garantien, Gewährleistungen oder Rücknahme.
Gruß
Jörg
Performance
It's as sharp as my Nikkors, with much less lateral color fringing. That's the embarassing part!
This lens has performance similar to the manual focus Nikon 15mm f/3.5 AI-s, 18mm f/3.5 and 20mm f/3.5 AI lenses. I prefer this lens to the $2,000 Nikkor 15mm f/3.5 AI-s since this Tokina has better ghost resistance and takes real filters.
It has typical barrel distortion.
It has low contrast at f/3.5, improving greatly at f/5.6.
There is strong falloff of illumination at f/3.5 and some at f/5.6. Most of the falloff is gone at smaller apertures.
Mine is fairly susceptible to ghosting with the sun in the image, and has a slightly green color balance. Mine is single-coated. Today's versions are multicoated and ought to be much better.
Watch it with the filters, one can get vignetting if not careful.
The color balance of my single-coated version is warmer than my Nikkors.
Recommendations
Want a lens that can give you great, eye-popping ultra-wide images for cheap? Get one of these! It works great on the Nikon D3 full-frame.
If you have an extra grand lying around, need to shoot at large apertures, are too lazy to swap lenses, need auto focus and don't mind the dead weight, the Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8 AF-S is far superior on those fronts. The Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF is also better at large apertures, as well as twice as expensive.
If you usually shoot at apertures smaller than f/5.6 the photos will look the same! You even get matrix metering with this manual focus lens on a Nikon F4 and FA.
Manual focus and lack of zoom allows you to save lots of money and still get great results. You are sacrificing convenience, not image quality if you can stop down this lens.
I have not owned the autofocus 17mm f/3.5 lens from Tokina. For about the same price you can get the Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF-D.
I did try the AF Tokina 17mm once looking for a 17mm lens without the barrel distortion, and it was the same.
I also think I tried the twice-as-expensive Tamron 17mm f/3.5 which gave about similar performance. I hated the adaptall mount. It is a kludge. Again, you can buy the real Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF for not much more money.
Weitere Anwendermeinungen:
Summary:
One of the better aftermarket lenses out there. Very sharp and detailed images can be obtained from this lens. I use it with my old Canon A-1 bodies and are darn close to the image quality of the original Canon FD prime lenses at a third of the price! Flare is an issue with any extreme wide-angle lens and there is an original lens hood available at B&H Photo on special order (as of 5-16-05). This hood will quiet all the complaints of the flare issue! If you can find one of these in your mount, BUY IT! Thay have been out of production for some time now and will be lost to history soon.
Strengths:
Great image quality for an after-market lens. Fantastic for scenics!
Weaknesses:
Slight flare without hood. Maximum aperature of f/3.5. Wish it were f/2.8, but for the money...
Summary:
Typical great Tokina solid build quality. This lens is built like a tank! 17mm is a great experience. My first experience with this lens was at Hearst Castle in San Simeon. The outside swimming pool photograph with this lens turn out perfectly sharp, good contrast and great colors! The indoor photograph of the dining room was amazingly sharp with perfect exposure. I could not have taken a picture of the church without this 17mm lens which just fitted in the frame perfectly! The only issue I have with the lens is that the focusing ring is too loose. Sometimes I would see shoots that have some light fallout on the edges. Other than that, this is a great lens!
Strengths:
build quality sharp good contrast good color 17mm is great
Weaknesses:
some light fallout on edges loose focusing range
ich verkaufe mein Tokina SL 3,5/17mm (manueller Fokus) weil ich mit dem Nikon AI-S 3,5/20mm gut klar komme und etwas Platz im Fotoschrank brauche.
Das Objektiv ist in einem sehr guten Zustand. Keine Kratzer, kein Pilz. Einzig die Fokussierung hat leichtes Spiel, was bei diesem Objektiv wohl öfter vorgekommen ist.
Dabei sind beide Deckel, die Sonnenblende und die OVP
Preis: 120 Euro + 5 Euro für den versicherten Versand.
Analog ist es leicht abgeblendet ein wirklich gutes Objektiv
Laut Ken Rockwell ist es auch an der D3 sehr gut.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/17tokina.htm
Privatverkauf. Keine Garantien, Gewährleistungen oder Rücknahme.
Gruß
Jörg
Performance
It's as sharp as my Nikkors, with much less lateral color fringing. That's the embarassing part!
This lens has performance similar to the manual focus Nikon 15mm f/3.5 AI-s, 18mm f/3.5 and 20mm f/3.5 AI lenses. I prefer this lens to the $2,000 Nikkor 15mm f/3.5 AI-s since this Tokina has better ghost resistance and takes real filters.
It has typical barrel distortion.
It has low contrast at f/3.5, improving greatly at f/5.6.
There is strong falloff of illumination at f/3.5 and some at f/5.6. Most of the falloff is gone at smaller apertures.
Mine is fairly susceptible to ghosting with the sun in the image, and has a slightly green color balance. Mine is single-coated. Today's versions are multicoated and ought to be much better.
Watch it with the filters, one can get vignetting if not careful.
The color balance of my single-coated version is warmer than my Nikkors.
Recommendations
Want a lens that can give you great, eye-popping ultra-wide images for cheap? Get one of these! It works great on the Nikon D3 full-frame.
If you have an extra grand lying around, need to shoot at large apertures, are too lazy to swap lenses, need auto focus and don't mind the dead weight, the Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8 AF-S is far superior on those fronts. The Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF is also better at large apertures, as well as twice as expensive.
If you usually shoot at apertures smaller than f/5.6 the photos will look the same! You even get matrix metering with this manual focus lens on a Nikon F4 and FA.
Manual focus and lack of zoom allows you to save lots of money and still get great results. You are sacrificing convenience, not image quality if you can stop down this lens.
I have not owned the autofocus 17mm f/3.5 lens from Tokina. For about the same price you can get the Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF-D.
I did try the AF Tokina 17mm once looking for a 17mm lens without the barrel distortion, and it was the same.
I also think I tried the twice-as-expensive Tamron 17mm f/3.5 which gave about similar performance. I hated the adaptall mount. It is a kludge. Again, you can buy the real Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF for not much more money.
Weitere Anwendermeinungen:
Summary:
One of the better aftermarket lenses out there. Very sharp and detailed images can be obtained from this lens. I use it with my old Canon A-1 bodies and are darn close to the image quality of the original Canon FD prime lenses at a third of the price! Flare is an issue with any extreme wide-angle lens and there is an original lens hood available at B&H Photo on special order (as of 5-16-05). This hood will quiet all the complaints of the flare issue! If you can find one of these in your mount, BUY IT! Thay have been out of production for some time now and will be lost to history soon.
Strengths:
Great image quality for an after-market lens. Fantastic for scenics!
Weaknesses:
Slight flare without hood. Maximum aperature of f/3.5. Wish it were f/2.8, but for the money...
Summary:
Typical great Tokina solid build quality. This lens is built like a tank! 17mm is a great experience. My first experience with this lens was at Hearst Castle in San Simeon. The outside swimming pool photograph with this lens turn out perfectly sharp, good contrast and great colors! The indoor photograph of the dining room was amazingly sharp with perfect exposure. I could not have taken a picture of the church without this 17mm lens which just fitted in the frame perfectly! The only issue I have with the lens is that the focusing ring is too loose. Sometimes I would see shoots that have some light fallout on the edges. Other than that, this is a great lens!
Strengths:
build quality sharp good contrast good color 17mm is great
Weaknesses:
some light fallout on edges loose focusing range
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